At 10/04/2003, they replied:
We were planning to develop a site for this domain name but i am
open to offers.
Please let me know.
Adam
I replied:
Oh. This surprises me. I naturally assumed you
were one of those slimey domain squatters, and you had a preset
price to release these domains you have zero interest in. In any
case, my customer had decided not to deal with you. The truth is, I
don't believe you have any plans for this domain. I suspect you are
a slimey domain squatter owning thousands. I just thought I'd
ask. Some squatters are more greedy than others.
At 11/04/2003, they wrote:
Well, whatever it is you want to assume that is
fine. Slimey domain squatter? hmmm.
Thanks, I guess I'll take that with a grain of
salt. I buy domain names for the same reason you (or your customer)
would buy them, to make money from the traffic. I don't have
a preset price as I have just bought this domain recently and
haven't had a chance to monitor the traffic. I'm not quite sure why
I offended you and why you are so angry, but buying domain names is
a legitimate way to make money. If someone thinks they can make
more from owning the domain name then me, or if someone wants the
domain name more than it's worth to me, that's when I would sell .
That's how business works. Sorry you don't understand and have to be
rude to me about your ignorance.
Hehehe...
Being rude to people that are slimey is actually how I make my
living. I create arguments like this with people like you, and then
post them on my web site... and people come to read them. It's
funny to me, and apparently to many others, how people like you -
generally accepted as Internet slime, justify your actions.
When I was young, working as a retail salesman for a computer store,
I remember how important it was to REALLY BELIEVE that the crap we
sold was best for the customer. It made it easier to smile and
recommend things that may or may not have been good deals.
So I kind of understand why you need to believe
it's not a slimey business to domain squat. Compared to the people
I've dealt with previously, your answer is actually quite good. It
is interesting to see how quickly you abandoned the "we're
developing a sewing machines web site" tactic, and decided to try
the more truthful "we deceptively buy things we know other people
need, and then profit from our margins" approach. I'm sorry the
knitting machines domain wasn't valuable enough to my client, to
justify paying the extortion fee. I bet you really make a killing
on SINGLE word domains. The two word variety probably are not worth
as much.
What are we talking here anyway? $200? $2000?
No discount for the publicity
www.007names.com
will receive from my posting?
jeff
First, I doubt you have a website, second I doubt you have any
clients and Highly doubt you have much of a following as you seem to
think. Where is it ? let's see your stats of all the people you are
amusing besides yourself. Seems to me if this is true it must be a
fun little party for you and your clueless following.
I've never stated that I was developing any
type of knitting machine site. I said I was planning to develop the
domain. . . never said what I will do with it and how I would do it.
I also never changed my tune to say that I buy things to sell on
margin. I buy things to make money off of them. Domains are a form
of commodity as well as an easy way to "advertise" and get people
through the door of a business. I can make money from either one of
these ways. If someone wished to purchase the domain I'd sell it and
if there wasn't anyone willing I'd monetize the traffic and make
money in that way. Again, your ignorance to how business online
works is quite apparent.
Go try rattling someone elses cage and before
you do maybe take an economics or perhaps a business course (if you
have graduated from highschool yet that is) maybe that will provide
you with a little more deeper knowledge than your job at bestbuy or
circuit city gave you.
Hello again fine sir. Yesterday I was content
to leave this thread as completed, but - believe it or not, I
thought up a rebuttal as I was falling asleep last night. Your
message was very well worded, and I was content to call you
victorious in our battle of words.
But things still stuck in my head. You still
claim that you bought the knittingmachines.com domain strictly to
bring traffic to your site, and that you had to weigh whether the
domain made you more money by keeping it, or selling it. The more
hits your site gets from any specific domain, helps dictate the
value of it's worth for resale.
To me, this would mean that the web site
itself is the priority. You buy these domains strictly as a means
to build traffic. You said so yourself. You are not a domain
squatter at all, but a businessman buying domains to help your web
traffic. I can respect that.
To me, this would mean that the web site
itself is your main income... not selling domains. You only sell
domains when they're not making enough traffic - right? When
they're good domains... like single word domains, you must keep
them. Your company's main business is that web site. The one that
seems to be a link-list to others. You must make a fortune from the
site itself, and a much smaller portion of your income comes from
domain selling.
Naturally you won't show me your books... I'm
not expecting that. From day 1 we both know you really are a slimey
domain squatter, but it's been fun challenging myself to figure out
how your mind works. It must be hard to work in a field that
everybody hates, and then try to "nice it up" with your silly
justifications.
I was trying to think of some other industry I
could use to compare, or liken your idea to. Maybe buying the very
last can of motor oil from a town, even though you don't drive a
car, and then selling it back to the store for $1000.. or buying
every single apple in the world from the farmers and then selling
them back to the orchards for $10,000 an apple.
Neither is really exactly the same... Maybe
I'll keep thinking, since we're talking about "one only" products
you're scalping. Hmmm.. Scalping. I like that word. Scalpers are
such sweet people. Not slimey at all.
once again you've got me all figured out. it
only took you a few days too.
congratulations! that job at bestbuy or circuit city really paid off
in educating you on business. you're parents must be proud. Why
would you have even typed in knittingmachines.com in the first
place..... hmmm maybe because that's what you wanted.... hmmm maybe
I can direct a visitor to the information with my search engne....
hmm i don't know ANY other businesses that do that. . . . maybe
google, yahoo, altavista, lycos , etc would ring a bell in your
thick skull.
what I am guessing is your problem is that you
are a geek who is stuck in a time warp. you didn't profit from the
tech boom and now you're stuck wallowing in your pathetic world of
"what ifs"... have fun, maybe someday you'll figure out what
capitalism and business is all about until then go back to playing
with your cats and leave me alone to conduct my "slimey" business.
sincerely
slimey domain owner.
btw if you want to figure out an analogy
compare domains to real estate. . . just try and use your brain to
figure out why BUT don't bother emailing back because you've wasted
enough of my time.
I have to admit. You are better tv this
sparing than I. It's taken you 6 or 7 messages before you started
getting dirty. Maybe you'll mention my mother next time. I gave
you the "retail sales" gimmie, and you used it well.
I'm not sure I agree with REAL ESTATE as a good comparison, but I
suppose in certain circumstances, speculation is a scummy field
too. People who buy land cheap just to resell it at huge profits,
when they have no intention of using the land for anything than
making money.
Perhaps the comparison would be closer if you personally went around
with the agents, and bought only the homes I was interested in, and
then re-offered them to me for $1000,000 more. Oh wait, people do
that with real estate. That's the slimey part. Ok... you win that
comparison, but I'm not sure it worked in your favour.
Ok. This is my last message. It completes the nice montage for my
web site. Maybe I'll see if "zebrapooh.com" is available. After
all, it has nothing to do with my interests, but it may attract
zebra fans to my web... just as you desire to attract sewing machine
manufacturers to your link list. As you say - irritating people
with false leads is all part of your business plan. The last time I
typed in "luncheonmeat.com" I got Google... so I guess everybody is
doing it.
Oh wait, that's wrong. People seem to respect Google.
Anyway Adam. It's been fun. For both of us I suspect. Too close
to declare a winner. Perhaps both, although sadly my
knittingmachines customer didn't get a domain. I wonder if you'll
renew it, just to spite me. Then only the innocent lose.
I suspect replying to me was at least a little fun. Perhaps not
enough of a distraction to care about punctuation or grammar or
capitalization, but then, these are not really skills you need to
soak people out of their domain money. In fact, it probably works
in your favour if people think you're ignorant, rather than the
domain stealing mastermind you are (heheheh).
Bye